Monday, March 24, 2014

The three things that make us do evil

Some conclusions on evil from Philip Zimbardo, leader of the notorious 1971 Stanford Prison Experiment.
"... the Lucifer effect involves understanding human character transformations with three factors. And it's a dynamic interplay. 
What do the people bring into the situation? What does the situation bring out of them? And what is the system that creates and maintains that situation?
So if you want to change a person, you've got to change the situation.   
If you want to change the situation, you've got to know where the power is, in the system."
I reckon Zimbardo is right, if there's no way of changing human hearts.  Because if there's no hope to change a person's heart, then all we can do is mitigate the evil that people can commit by managing the circumstances into which we place them.

Sadly, though, I think that if this is true, we're in a hopeless situation.  We end up in a recursive loop we can't resolve.

  1. We stop people from doing evil things by avoiding placing them in 'evil producing/tempting' situations.
  2. We stop people from being placed in 'evil producing' situations by changing the system that creates the various situations.
  3. We change the system by convincing people to change their behaviour so that they change the system.

But the system exists as the product of people acting in ways that benefit them but hurt others.  How do we change the actions of those people?  We have to start from step 1 all over again.

And so the loop continues.



If only there was a way to allow the human heart to choose the good even in a tempting situation.
"For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people, training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age, waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works."  Titus 2:11-14

Friday, March 21, 2014

Random crumbs falling from a TED talk

An interesting TED talk here on the psychology of evil, by Philip Zimbardo, leader of the notorious 1971 Stanford Prison Experiment.

His basic premise is that there are three contributive factors to the production of evil in people.

  1. Disposition of the individual - are they a bad apple?
  2. The situation - are the apples in a bad barrel?
  3. The system - the legal, political, economic and cultural background that creates the situation.

It is, I think, excellent analysis.  The individuals WILL bring good and bad to a situation, the situation WILL provide a varying degree of temptation to act out negatively and the milieu of law, politics, economic and cultural factors WILL systemically produce certain types of those situations.

It also, it seems to me, is a perfect match for the biblical account of sin.


  1. According to Scripture, sin is an individual, responsibility bearing choice.
  2. The Bible also says that different situations bring about certain temptations to sin that other situations do not.  (Though, fascinatingly, God seems to use these for good!)
  3. Sin gives rise to systemic sin within a population, often until it results in a tragedy of such great magnitude that in God's common grace some of the errors of the age are realised.  Then new ones are formed...

Some fascinating quotes:

Starting with the idea that God created Lucifer, who then rebelled against God and 'became' the devil:
"Paradoxically, it was God who created hell as a place to store evil. He didn't do a good job of keeping it there though."


Some interesting angles there on the nature of the world into which God placed the garden and Adam and Eve.  Biblically, it sure wasn't a perfect world.  Adam and Eve, but particularly Adam, were charged with protecting that garden from evil and chaos, and even to extend the goodness of orderliness of the garden out into the world.

In regards to Abu Ghraib:


"So another report, an investigative report by General Fay, says the system is guilty."
But the question for me is, why do we blame the system?  That people act in certain ways in certain situations doesn't absolve a person of responsibility for actions.  That there is a rich complex of influences going on is worth recognising, but doesn't make the reality of individual responsibility a non-issue.

And this very interesting set of experimental conclusions: (I've added some bible verses in brackets afterwards, because I think there are some striking resemblances)
"So what are the seven social processes that grease the slippery slope of evil? 
Mindlessly taking the first small step (Psalm 1:1)
Dehumanization of others. (Disregard for Gen 9:6, or from another angle, Romans 2:1) 
De-individuation of Self. (Colossians 3:1 - be who you are!)  
Diffusion of personal responsibility.(Genesis 3) 
Blind obedience to authority. (Matthew 15:14 and Ephesians 4:14)  
Uncritical conformity to group norms. (Galatians 2:11-12)  
Passive tolerance to evil through inaction or indifference. (Genesis 3 - Adam, I'm looking at you.)"